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« Thread Started on Oct 29, 2007, 10:46am »

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music....teningpost_1029

has anyone checked out the Amazon vinyl store? I hadn't heard about that.

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« Reply #1 on Oct 29, 2007, 11:31am »

I've bought some stuff from Amazon that I couldn't get (for a decent price at least) on ebay. It's worth a shot sometimes for stuff that's still lingering in some small record store.

And anyone that goes to record stores knows vinyl is always hot. My local record store is always packed.
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« Reply #2 on Oct 29, 2007, 11:31am »

I bought one record from amazon over the summer, but I had no idea there was actual vinyl store. It arrived in good shape, but it came in a huge box and shrink wrapped like all their orders.
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« Reply #3 on Oct 29, 2007, 12:00pm »

Everything I searched for in the "vinyl" store on amazon came up blank.
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« Reply #4 on Oct 29, 2007, 12:00pm »

Vinyl is definitely one the way back up, as far as trends go. That is a bit scary too, though.
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« Reply #5 on Oct 29, 2007, 12:02pm »

many of the press outlets have been writing about vinyl's comeback, but it really isn't likely that this will become a mainstream format again. I think it is experiencing a great amount of positive momentum, but chains and big box retailers don't know what to do with vinyl. I am glad to see anyone write positively about vinyl so no complaints here. WE will actually be releasing a few releases next year as vinyl/digital only formats.
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many of the press outlets have been writing about vinyl's comeback, but it really isn't likely that this will become a mainstream format again. I think it is experiencing a great amount of positive momentum, but chains and big box retailers don't know what to do with vinyl. I am glad to see anyone write positively about vinyl so no complaints here. WE will actually be releasing a few releases next year as vinyl/digital only formats.


That's eventually where I want to get, vinyl and digitally only. Bands are just worried about sales at their shows, which is one thing I haven't figured out. I was figuring on offering free downloads but then you have to worry about making cards or codes, which seems cumbersome. I was also thinking about doing digital/vinyl but doing free downloads and allowing donations. I call it the BTMI model.
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« Reply #7 on Oct 29, 2007, 12:12pm »

Interesting article. I am glad to see that it's being acknowledged that vinyl is not a dead format.
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« Reply #8 on Oct 29, 2007, 12:24pm »

Well, as long as the Internet is around, I kind of think the Big Box retailers are a moot point. I've only tried to find a few major label releases over the years, but I've never had much trouble.
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« Reply #9 on Oct 29, 2007, 12:32pm »

very interesting..

Amazon vinyl-only section has some ridiculous prices though
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« Reply #10 on Oct 29, 2007, 12:51pm »

yeah, i can't imagine i'd ever buy much/anything from the amazon store. not while vinyl collective is around, at least.
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« Reply #13 on Oct 29, 2007, 1:52pm »

I've been cruising that Amazon shit for a little while trying to find Cardigans LPs, but no luck. I did just blow $40 on some Samiam LPs though. I feel like an asshole paying $20 each for them (average, including shipping), but they're older, major label releases that aren't easy to find.

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I've been cruising that Amazon shit for a little while trying to find Cardigans LPs, but no luck. I did just blow $40 on some Samiam LPs though. I feel like an asshole paying $20 each for them (average, including shipping), but they're older, major label releases that aren't easy to find.



I actually found quite a few good buys on there. Too bad I'm broke as FUCK right now.
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I've been cruising that Amazon shit for a little while trying to find Cardigans LPs, but no luck. I did just blow $40 on some Samiam LPs though. I feel like an asshole paying $20 each for them (average, including shipping), but they're older, major label releases that aren't easy to find.


Seems like Amazon's format search option doesn't work.
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« Reply #16 on Oct 29, 2007, 2:00pm »

i never knew amazon had a vinyl section sort of thing. i would always look up the record i wanted and if it had LP Record under "other formats" i could click on it and check that way. i guess you learn something new every day.
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« Reply #19 on Oct 29, 2007, 3:10pm »

i know im not that qualified to talk about the subject, but i think it'll never become like cd's again. its like taking a giant step back, and i think in the long run when cd's become obsolete and theres only mp3's and vinyl, it will be the best scenario for everyone. but at that point, the labels who release the vinyl will have to figure out exactly how much vinyl will need to be made, because like it was previously stated, the trend will turn into a 2nd option, and once that happens, EVERYONES gonna want to be hip. 'Naw I mean?
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« Reply #21 on Oct 29, 2007, 3:23pm »

I personnally hope CDs won't disappear

Digital download is a great complement to a vinyl release - just so you have a legal way to actually have the songs on a portable media (cause we all know vinyl isn't really "portable")

You can easily rip the cd you just bought on your mp3 player. But for people who don't care about vinyl, cds are still great
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Digital download is a great complement to a vinyl release - just so you have a legal way to actually have the songs on a portable media (cause we all know vinyl isn't really "portable")

You can easily rip the cd you just bought on your mp3 player. But for people who don't care about vinyl, cds are still great


I believe the thought with CDs is they'll be replaced by strictly digitally downloadable music, which will take its place like CDs took the place of tapes.
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it's extremely likely, it seems.
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Digital download is a great complement to a vinyl release - just so you have a legal way to actually have the songs on a portable media (cause we all know vinyl isn't really "portable")

You can easily rip the cd you just bought on your mp3 player. But for people who don't care about vinyl, cds are still great


I believe the thought with CDs is they'll be replaced by strictly digitally downloadable music, which will take its place like CDs took the place of tapes.


This also kinda sucks in a way, because EVERYTHING won't be released on vinyl, therefore eliminating album artwork for many releases. That is, if this really does happen.
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I believe the thought with CDs is they'll be replaced by strictly digitally downloadable music, which will take its place like CDs took the place of tapes.


This also kinda sucks in a way, because EVERYTHING won't be released on vinyl, therefore eliminating album artwork for many releases. That is, if this really does happen.


Not necessarily. I think it just means the artwork will be digital. Maybe like a PDF you can print out for your own use or something like that.
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I believe the thought with CDs is they'll be replaced by strictly digitally downloadable music, which will take its place like CDs took the place of tapes.


This also kinda sucks in a way, because EVERYTHING won't be released on vinyl, therefore eliminating album artwork for many releases. That is, if this really does happen.


Yeah I'm with you. I will never pay for digital downloads. If I don't have anything tangible to associate with the music, then screw it.
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« Reply #27 on Oct 29, 2007, 3:43pm »

i agree faith. i'll never be able to resign myself to digital-only music releases.
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« Reply #28 on Oct 29, 2007, 3:51pm »

yeah, the only time I've ever bought a digital release is if it was an itunes exclusive or something of that nature. If I'm going to pay roughly the same amount as a CD, i'd much rather have something to show for it. Not to mention a hard backup.
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yeah, the only time I've ever bought a digital release is if it was an itunes exclusive or something of that nature. If I'm going to pay roughly the same amount as a CD, i'd much rather have something to show for it. Not to mention a hard backup.


How much you pay is another question. i personally like iTunes but I'm not sure if services like eMusic are going to see their model proliferate. At that point you'd be paying 3-5 per album, depending on song count, etc.

Personally, a booklet is the only thing not be included with a digital release. I rarely look at any of the ones I have and further, you could get a nicer booklet via digital means than you could with a CD.
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